I have seen not only one person claim they have a water powered engine. There are several times I have seen this 10 years ago from various inventors. But for some reason, these inventions just don’t kick off into the mainstream. Just imagine the non-depended fossil fuel engine. No burning, lesser pollution, large demand, but very large supply, so price goes down. Can be recycled very easy. Cleaner air, eveything would be so nice. But sometimes it is economics and politics that may prevent water powered engines from really getting into the market. There are things you have to introduce slowly and if you introduce them too quick, large changes in markets occur and everyone loses money. Maybe some of you may be complaining, why not have it now, let’s do it now. I think there is too much investors in energy right now, from mutual funds to peoples IRA or 401K. And everyone relies on these that their money goes up when they retire. Many retirement plans simply invest their money in other stuff and try to make more money to give you more money when you retire. And many of these funds are invested in the gas industry.
And how can water power engines? Well water is basically H2O. Two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom make a molecule of water. And how they do this, is I really do not know. Hygrogen is the lightest gas and highly flamable, although this is on the molecular state of H2. And oxygen which is needed in any type of burning is in the molecular state O2. So separating H in the H2O either gives you an ionic H+ cation and an -OH anion. Both don’t burn and usually exist dissolved in liquid that easily bond with other ions like sodium, potassium and manganese, and chlorides and sulfates that can be found in tap water. Maybe even in your bottled mineral water. Now to take out H2 gas which is the ideal fuel, and get O2 oxygen for burning. You will need 2 molecules of water 2H2O forming 2H2 and O2. Now is that possible? I really don’t know. And from what I have learned in school, it even needs more energy to break off hydrogen gas from water and make oxygen as a by product. And often this energy requires some high amount ot electricity. And when you say electricity, sometimes this still all boils down back to fossil fuels. But I really do not know how it works, and I am not skeptical about the engine either, but actually interested on how it works and still keeping an open mind that this can really be true or not, and even if it is true, where does he get the electricity to power his hydrolysis making what he calls HHO? If he charges some battery using his home electricity, then he is still using a bunch of fossil fuels since most power plants are still powered on natural gas. And electricity from hydroelectrical plants, windfarms, geothermal and other power sources are actually a minority. If this engine kicks off, the gas station industry may not be happy, but the main oil drilling industry will still be happy, if not happier.
And note, this is only my opinion. I may be wrong, I may be right. And I used to be a chemist one time in my life and I am no longer updated 100% with the chemistry world as I was before, and maybe everything I said above are obsolete knowledge. But I do hope there is still a way to maximize the use of water since it is just all over the place.
September 13th, 2006 at 11:06 am
Some good questions, Benj. As far as why this isn’t more developed and used (since the technology has existed for decades)it isn’t all of the retirement accounts of consumers that are at risk, it’s the huge profits and salaries of the controlling families in the oil business. Plus, since anyone can pretty much get water for literally less than a penny a gallon, or just dig a hole in their back yard (i.e. a well) and pump gallons of it for virtually no cost, the government can’t control and tax this source of energy, like it does all conventional hydrocarbon based sources.
As far as where do you get the electricity to “split” the water molecule, most cars have alternators that can produce much more electricity than is required to spark the plugs, recharge the battery, and run all of the lights and accessories. The voltage regulator mainly prevents the alternator from producing more tham is needed at any particular time. This excess electricity can be channeled into separating the water into usable fuel, much as refineries use a smaller amount of fossil fuel to refine crude oil into usable diesel or gasoline. This isn’t really “creating” energy, which is impossible (2nd Law of Thermodynamics), its simply using wasted energy that would have been expended as heat to “refine” water into a usuable fuel, which then powers the engine. Then, just as in a refinery, a small amount of the produced energy is routed into producing more fuel.
For more information on this you can check some of the other articles and videos on YouTube, or some of the postings on my blog, at http://www.upaas.com/blog. Check it out, and keep posting on this topic. The more people that use and promote this basically “free” technology (it saves you way more in fuel costs than it takes to implement it) at the grass roots level, the closer we all get to a less polluted, more sustainable, free society.
Freebie Jack
September 13th, 2006 at 7:52 pm
Hi Jack,
Hmmm, pretty interesting. I however have a question, could the process you mentioned produce enough Hydrogen and Oxygen (by splitting water) to run a real car with all its passengers?
Mike